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Steve Brown has left Buy.at
Whatever you may think about buy.at, Steve Brown helped steer that ship for a long time and has now left to let the corporate beast role on. So him and his brother Dave have ran into the sunset.
They have done such a good job that most people don’t know that they were the major shareholders……this is the only picture on the internet of Steve Brown:
Leaving Malcolm Cowley and Kevin Cornils to look after things:
Doug in awe
Buy.at gave me some cookies
Well the guys and girls at Buy.at kindly invited me to come down to their get together in London yesterday. They held a discussion about issues in affiliate marketing and had some merchants/agencies/affiliates on panels to talk about things. Alas prior to the event I had been to lunch with Duncan Jennings, a scarily clever and driven individual:
and the git only bought me a sausage sandwich and hence I was found wandering round the Buy.at event stuffing my face with cookies all afternoon….I may soon be as fat as Steve Brown the founder of Buy.at…..Steve mate you don’t have to eat your way through the £70 million that AOL gave you.
It was not Buy.at’s fault but it appeared to be a theatre production about affiliate marketing with me and Keith Budden of Arctic Sunrise there to heckle. Tyson Pearcey the smiling American or Canadian:)
tried to steer things along in the late afternoon, but the ship was sinking. I do appreciate what Buy.at were trying to do, but some how it felt like it got lost.
Normally I never bother listening to the waffle at most events and sit in the bar talking with who ever went to the toilet, alas I was alone for part of one session. There are exceptions, fat seo Dave Naylor is always worth a laugh as he says it how he sees it and Dixon Jones I find informative, honest mate I do.
Anyway the networking was well worth the effort, I got to talk to expedia again, they have a new guy their, Eric Solem,who is Head of Affiliates Europe, Middle Easte and Africa. He seemed very straight and honest……….I get confused at that place as they seem to change staff like a whore changes her knickers. Any it was a pleasure to talk to him, he was very open and frank and I hope he hangs round.
The after party do was very good and much more informative, as they always are. Maybe it is the nature of this industry as it is growing up that no one wants to say anything in public incase it comes back to haunt them at a later date.
Thanks again Buy.at for the effort and if you invite me again I will make sure to eat beforehand.
Doug trying to get thinner
Has Malcolm Cowley left the building
I was trying to find out what had happened to Malcolm Cowley, the loud mouthed lovely Geordie, who massively helped build buy.at. He comes from a couple of miles from me and even knows some people I know in Whitley Bay:
I know he headed off to New York not long after Kevin Cornils appeared at buy.at . Now was that because Malcolm loved New York or Kevin told him to shut up as they had some stupid American who was looking for a bride and having a drunken geordie was not a help when trying to get a bit of legal hanky panky. The American in question had just been left at the alter by Tradedoubler but had bought the dress and wanted to use it. So the guys at buy.at:
even though not the best looking were all quite funny and good for going out with. And we all know women do like funny men, never seemed to work for me:( but thats another story.
So the bride got use of her dress, the funny guys went to live on a sunny island and poor Malcolm was left in the wilderness, close to the brides parents.
Doug messing about on Friday
URGENT UPDATE - Phew Mal has just contacted me, he is alive and well. Please leave your wishes for him below as he is needing help spending the cash
The arrogance of merchants
Well today I started a blog. So rather than all the crap reasons why, here is the first one. Yesterday I posted about the arrogance of merchants over at Matt Woods affiliates4u forum, here is a brief snippet:
In my new role as diplomatic ambassador (not). It astonishes me and I wonder what I am missing, having ran and ownded numerous companies I would always talk nicely to people who could give me business. I would make their life easy and try every way to help them send me more business.
So today I am in my new play role and applied for the NEXT affiliate program on buy.at. Now buy.at know of me but we have never done much together, notably because affiliacy really is not our game. But they know our volumes over the years have been very very large. NEXT have no idea who we are or what we do….arrogance of merchants
So thought I would expand on this as it is something that still astonishes me.
In the real world of business most companies are split into seperate divisions and each division is now having to justify its existence. Hence you have the sales department out their knocking on doors and making deals, always aiming to make profit on every widget sold. You then have the marketing department, who are out their brand advertising, in many cases without ROI targets but focussing on awareness at what is called “opportunity to see”, ie the chance of a customer seeing our adverts. The rest of the company including IT is seen as a cost centre and not a profit centre.
So along comes the internet, and the IT department, who run the web site, develop the seo,ppc and affiliate channels. A smart IT director realises this is his or her chance to make money for the company and beome a profit centre and hence have a chance to make some bonus and maybe getter a better company car. So now we have IT doing sales…..and an internal fight starts.
In the meantime the marketing department has been buying banners and started doing ppc…again another fight ensues.
So each department internally is fighting and then they try to build an online strategy…but remember they are still fighting for power internally.
Now this bit confuses me:
- banner buying is viewed as marketing and brand building and does not give true roi
- ppc initially was viewed as an roi channel, but is now properly in the hands of marketeers and hence many campaigns are viewed as brand building exercises. And google are more and more pushing this idea. The bid prices go up, the roi goes down, but hey its better than TV and newspaper advertising.
- affiliates for some reason are viewed still as profit centre and hence can be treated differently
In the normal business world the profitable sales channel would be seen as the channel to look after, but for some obscure reason in the online world it is treated as the scum.
So why are affiliates treated as the scum? My view is quite simple so many affiliates run this business part time and treat it as an extra income, so they are happy to be given it hard up the a**e and take the crumbs from the merchants table. It’s beer money. But the times are changing and the small affiliates are dying and being replace by specialist affiliate companies,with 10 to 500 staff. These affiliates are very different in their view, they run it like a business. As time rolls on these affiliates pick a sector and aim to dominate all the search engines and all the top slots, the law of avergaes says they will get a few rankings. But these sites aren’t horrible one page wonders but real value sites that the search engines want to rank. Eventually all the top slots are held by large affiliates, who then dictate the terms for merchants.
Yes merchants can still spend fortunes on ppc, but they will not rank long term in the organic results, simply because they can only hold at bext one slot for one keyword, where as a affiliate can hold them all. So ultimately the traffic will be controlled by the large affiliates, who have real value sites. If you are a company like expedia and watching your market share grow by a staggering 12%? Wow guys thats amazing, if our sales numbers had grown only buy 12% we would have sacked everyone. Maybe buyout some of these sites, ie note the recent sales of www.travel-library.com and www.holidaywatchdog.com, these sites will be encompassed into the global suite of sites and ultimately fall foul of the corporate beast and slowly loose some rankings.
So merchants can continue to buy up the online sales channels or start to work closer with some of the major affiliates, or maybe both.
Course you could just sit in your corporate tower and ignore this internet thing, who cares you are still being paid and with dodgy tracking systems or the inability of anyone to understand the 200 plus Omniture reports, no one will ever find out. If you run out of money why not
So back to NEXT a staggering increase in your share price, you must be doing something right. Or maybe you need to do something different.
Then what about buy.at has your vision become clouded looking at the money. You are nice bunch of guys:), sorry couldn’t resist. I like you and have complete respect for what you have done, but dont turn into the nasty merchants bitch. The SS did that and it didn’t work long term. Mind you, have you already left the bunker and got the pad in Argentina? Watch out people can still hunt you down and Chris has some nasty friends:)
Doug having fun:)